Welcome to the organized 365 podcast. I'm your host, professional organizer, productivity

expert, and motivational speaker, Lisa Woodruff. This podcast will help you embrace progress

over perfection and create lasting, functional organizing in your home. I have so much to share

with you. So let's get started. I have a special Wednesday podcast interview for you.

This is an interview that was recorded during the embrace conference with Beth Guggenberger,

the founder of Back to Back Ministries. Beth, I am so excited to share this stage with you

and have this conversation and meet you for the first time in person. I'm very much looking

forward to our conversation. Thanks for having me. You are one of my best friends. You just

don't know it yet. I think there's a lot of us out there. And I think my audience thinks

the same of me. And so it's so fun to interview you. The way I think that our relationship

is, is the way our relationship is. Yes. So I think we recognize ourselves sometimes

in people that we hear, you know, read their books or hear them on the radio. And we

think there's something about them that resonates with me and that creates connection, even

if we haven't yet met. So I'm happy to connect with you and with all your listeners.

So Beth, by the end of this interview, everyone is going to love you as much as I do. But

I want to go all the way back. We're here in Cincinnati, Ohio, which is where you were

born and raised? Not born, but certainly raised, yes.

Okay. So can you tell us about like growing up in Cincinnati, like until you were like

done with college? Yeah. I was the middle child with two brothers on either side in a family

that, man, I, you know, we all think our families are normal until we grew up and realized

not everyone grew up the way we did. But we, we were a family that over communicated.

So I, it's no shock today that that's how I make a living is through communication lots

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