Elyssa Maxx Goodman, GLITTER AND CONCRETE: A Cultural History of Drag in New York City

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🗓️ 4 February 2024

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Zibby speaks to journalist and drag historian Elyssa Maxx Goodman about GLITTER AND CONCRETE, an intimate, evocative history of drag in New York City with original interviews and glamorous color photos. Elyssa, inspired to write this book after the passing of the renowned drag queen Flawless Sabrina, describes her determination to preserve stories of drag artists for future generations. She and Zibby discuss the rich history of drag in NYC, its influence on American culture, and the importance of recognizing it as a significant art form. Elyssa also reflects on her childhood fascination with drag culture, her career as an author and journalist, and the news that her book has been named a Stonewall Honor Book.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books with Zivie. I'm the host, Zivie Owens. I am an author. My latest is blank,
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0:33.7	Alyssa Goodman is the author of Glitter and Concrete, a cultural history of drag in New York City.
0:39.3	Alyssa is a writer and photographer specializing in arts and culture.
0:42.5	Her work has been published in Vogue, T, the New York Times Style magazine, Vanity Fair, and others online and in print.
0:49.1	Alyssa has also written about LGBTQ plus history and culture for Kondaynasts Them, where she was the site's drag
0:56.2	herstery and queer women's history columnist. She has been a freelance writer for 19 years
1:00.9	and in love with drag for 28 years since the age of seven. Welcome, Alyssa. Very excited to talk
1:07.0	to you today about glitter and concrete, a cultural history of drag in New York City.
1:12.6	Thank you. Thank you. I'm very glad to be here. I appreciate you having me.
1:16.5	Of course. So the first time we met, you had invited me to your Miss Manhattan series.
1:23.2	And I remember going down into the bottom of the bar, wherever you had it, and when we all
1:28.3	writing essays about our grandmothers or whatever. And you gave me like this opportunity to talk
1:33.2	and speak and present an essay out loud, which I don't think I've like ever really done
1:38.5	before, accepted a summer program or whatever. And certainly not New York City. So anyway,
1:43.1	thank you for that. I just have to say.
1:45.3	Oh, that's very kind.
1:46.4	I had no idea. That was your first time doing that. That's very sweet. And I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. Thank you. Well, thank you for thinking of me. This was so, what, 2018, 17, something. Anyway, okay. So glitter and concrete, why don't you tell listeners why did you decide
2:02.6	to write a history of drag in New York City? Sure. Well, the idea came to me after the passing
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