Oh, hi. I'm Dave Holmes and welcome to Troubled Waters. The show that treats popular culture

is the most important kind of culture because it is the one that is keeping us hanging on.

Now, back in the before times, Troubled Waters would pit two teams of comedians against one another

in a pop culture battle royale. But now, teaming up with another person who's not in your

quarantine pod is possibly

lethal. It's definitely more frowned upon than trying to ask for a manager when you're shopping

on Thanksgiving. So for now, it is one comic against another and to win this battle, each of them.

We'll be called upon to use their smarts, their rhetorical skills, the great comebacks, they've been saving up in a special part of their brain all through lockdown to earn the coveted Trouled Waters title, Pundit Emeritus.

Now, that title will automatically give your opinion on, let's say, Jojo Siwas Dancing with the Stars finale number.

Yes.

More weight than a civilians.

You are listening to Troubled Waters. I mean, let's just meet our players, because clearly one of them has a strong opinion on JoJo Siwas dancing with

the stars finale performance she is the host of dumb gay politics on starburns she is

Julie Goldman Julie tell me everything hello what do you think hello one of a co-host of dumb

gay politics on starboard we'll get to that um that. It's everything right now.

We're absorbed.

We are, it's all I'm thinking about is Jojo C was, not just her finale performance,

but it's the performance as a whole on the entirety of the show.

And for me, and people can't see me, but I am a more masculine lesbian, lesbion.

So I'm giving you a sort of a more manly look.

I'm not really into a same-same situation.

So to watch that entirety play out was slightly disappointing.

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