"Elon To Rishi: From Bad To Worse"
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 27 October 2023
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
In a competition for lousiest leader, it’s a toss up between Elon Musk and Rishi Sunak. Matt d’Ancona argues Sunak might actually be the worst Tory leader since the referendum - and that’s a pretty high bar! Meanwhile - how did the late, great Bill Kenwright summarise life at Everton FC to Matt Kelly? It was fairly pithy and to the point. All this and more as the Two Matts are joined by Pulitzer Prize winning journalist James Ball. Enjoy!
Plus - a chance to get a free signed copy of James O’Brien’s new book when you subscribe to The New European.
Further reading/watching
The Pigeon Tunnel - "Errol Morris pulls back the curtain on the storied life and career of David Cornwell, the former spy known to the literary world as John le Carré"
The Other Pandemic - James Ball
The Right To Rule - Ben Riley-Smith
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| 0:56.5 | journalism. Hello, I'm Matt Kelly. And I'm Matt Dancona. And this is the two mats for the weekending |
| 1:01.3 | Friday, the 27th of October, a podcast that would never pay for a blue tick or even a gold tick. |
| 1:07.4 | We've just had a fantastic conversation with James Ball, which is the second half. |
| 1:11.3 | Our colleague and guru on social media disinformation, unpacking what's going on with the |
| 1:17.5 | information war in the Middle East crisis. |
| 1:19.8 | Yeah. |
| 1:20.2 | Really fascinating. |
| 1:21.0 | And more broadly. |
| 1:21.8 | And more broadly. |
| 1:22.6 | And more broadly. |
| 1:23.1 | You know, I thought, but the first half was dedicated, devoted, devoted, especially to Rishishishishunak. |
| 1:30.3 | One year on. |
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