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Elon’s America: Can the Billionaire Reboot the Right?

City Journal Audio

Manhattan Institute

Politics, News Commentary, News

4.8615 Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Tech billionaire Elon Musk is testing a new frontier in politics. In this episode, Charles Fain Lehman, Jesse Arm, Rafael Mangual, and Daniel Di Martino explore Musk’s proposed America Party—what it means for the right, why it’s gaining traction across conservative media, and whether it’s more than X posturing.

They also tackle the One Big Beautiful Bill—a trillion-dollar effort to rein in spending without touching Social Security or Medicare. Is it serious reform, or just another political stunt? Plus: July Fourth, national identity, and the conservative fight to reclaim America’s founding story.

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0:00.0

Welcome back, the City Journal podcast.

0:12.3

You know me.

0:12.8

I'm your host, Charles Fian Lehman, Hans, Tute, Senior Editor, City Journal, blah, blah, blah.

0:17.8

Joining me on the panel today, our longtime panelists, Jesse Arm,

0:22.9

Raffarman Gwal, Daniel de Martino.

0:25.0

Thank you, gentlemen, as always, for joining us.

0:27.4

I want to take us right into the big news at the end of last week,

0:30.9

which was President Donald Trump's signature on the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

0:36.3

Regular listeners will recall that we talked about it. I think on Thursday, it was still in the Senate when we recorded. It had already come out of the Senate. It was back in the house when we recorded. And by the time the podcast dropped, they had gotten it through the house, which is pretty remarkable speed. I'm not sure everyone was so sanguine that that was going to happen. We went a little bit back and forth, but now it's made it to the president's desk.

0:56.8

He signed it.

0:57.6

It's the big legislative initiative of his first year.

1:00.9

What do people think, are we surprised that they managed to get it through so quickly?

1:05.8

What do we make of this passage?

1:08.9

What do we also ask, what are our favorite and least favorite parts of the

1:12.9

bill? Free, free discussion. Go for it. Okay. Well, my favorite parts of the bill are permanent

1:20.8

expensing. That's one thing. It's permanent. Businesses can deduct all their equipment,

1:26.0

some of the structures that's going to be really good

1:28.2

for investment. It's the most pro-growth part of it, and it's not time-limited, right? It's forever.

1:33.7

Then the other favorite part is all the immigration provisions. I mean, they are giving

1:38.3

$3.33 billion for immigration courts, which is going to reduce the backlog, allow to deport a lot more people, but also give us asylum to people who really deserve it, and

1:47.8

they're charging fees to humanitarian migrants, which before it was all the other legal

1:52.8

immigrants who were paying for the border crisis. That's not going to happen anymore, so I'm

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