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Elon Musk vs The U.S. Government

Americast

BBC

Politics, Government, News

4.22.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

In the three weeks since Donald Trump returned to the White House, Elon Musk has taken a wrecking ball to the federal government in what he has called "a revolution of the people".

That revolution has included offers to buyout millions of federal employees, accessing sensitive data of millions of Americans and sweeping efforts to shut down federal agencies like USAID.

What, if anything, can get in Musk's way? And has there ever been so much power wielded in America by an unelected individual?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:06.6

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0:13.4

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0:17.0

Who is in charge in the White House? Is it Donald Trump or maybe Elon Musk?

0:22.1

Elon can't do and won't do anything without our approval.

0:27.8

And we'll give him the approval we're appropriate.

0:30.1

We're not appropriate.

0:31.3

We won't.

0:32.3

But he reports in and it's something that he feels very strongly about.

0:39.1

And I'm impressed because he's running obviously a big company.

0:41.7

It has nothing to do if there's a conflict that we won't let him get near it.

0:45.8

And that is because Elon Musk is moving at a pace and a scale that must have surprised even Donald Trump,

0:52.9

who put him in charge of downsizing and slashing some of the federal government, has so much power ever been wielded by an unelected individual.

1:02.0

And can anyone stop him?

1:03.9

Welcome to AmeriCast.

1:08.0

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1:10.8

God spared my life for a reason. Only... AmeriCast. AmeriCast from BBC News.

1:13.6

God spared my life for a reason.

1:18.2

Only when it is dark enough, can you see the stars.

1:19.9

A star is born, Elon.

1:23.9

I'm not just Maga. I'm dark Gothic Maga.

1:27.2

This is what happens when the machine comes after you.

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