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On with Kara Swisher

Elon Musk: Somebody That I Used to Know

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

4.23.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2022

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Elon Musk is a puzzle, but if there’s anyone who can make sense of him it’s Kara Swisher. She’s covered him since the late 90s – back in her early days as a beat reporter at the Wall Street Journal and she’s had many in-depth interviews and exchanges with the tech titan since, perhaps more than any other reporter. She’s also covered Elon’s latest fiefdom, Twitter, before it even was Twitter. So today we turn the tables, and Kara Swisher is “On” with Nayeema Raza.  We’ll unpack how Elon became Elon, why Kara came to believe he was one of the greatest visionaries in Silicon Valley, when exactly she soured on him — and why she still holds out some hope.  You can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From New York magazine and the Vox Media podcast network, this is on with Carouswisher.

0:16.4

And I'm Carouswisher with 20% fewer fucks given.

0:19.9

Just kidding.

0:20.9

I'm Neymaraza.

0:21.9

I probably give like 20% more fucks.

0:24.9

Why did you take my job?

0:26.3

You're like all about Eve.

0:27.5

I am.

0:28.5

You're supposed to hear Carouswisher in case people don't know.

0:30.6

I am Carouswisher and it's going to be a bumpy night name.

0:33.2

Uh-oh.

0:34.2

I'm very excited to get the reference.

0:35.2

You don't get the reference.

0:36.2

I do.

0:37.2

It's a whole black and white film.

0:38.2

I know it.

0:39.2

Oh my god.

0:40.2

So, Cara, there is an avalanche of news coming out of Twitter right now, including big

0:45.8

news last week that YoL Roth, who was head of trust and safety, has left the company.

0:50.4

Obviously, a huge and a very visible loss.

0:53.2

Absolutely.

0:54.2

He's been sort of the reasonable guy and now he's out.

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