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I am joined today by Fez Siddiqui. He is a technology reporter at the Washington Post.

And he just wrote a truly excellent book about Elon Musk. It's called Hubris Maximus.

So he's here with us today to chat about it. How's it going,

Bez? Good. How are you guys? Thank you guys for having me. Yeah, of course. Well, I just finished reading

your book last night. It was such a good read. It reads almost like a novel, the way you write about

Elon Musk and chronicling all that he's been up to over the past few years.

Can you start off by talking to us about why you wanted to write this book?

There are a lot of Elon Musk biographies out there.

There's no shortage of must content.

But what to you kind of makes this book stand out?

And what did you want to tackle this different from some of those other projects?

Yeah. So at the time that I began covering Elon Musk, he was sort of, you know, this larger

than life figure whose reputation was kind of unimpeachable as, you know, this heroic innovator,

you know, one of our greatest American minds, and somebody

who basically people worshipped in the vein of Steve Jobs, which, you know, it's not necessarily

to undercut that idea, but like the Elon that I found in covering Tesla was

deeply flawed. Even the Tesla fanboys would acknowledge this. We needed to get the whole

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