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The Katie Miller Podcast

Elon Musk on DOGE, AI, & Are we in a Simulation? | KMP Ep.18

The Katie Miller Podcast

Katie Miller

Society & Culture

2.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I sit down with @elonmusk for a wide-ranging conversation on DOGE, AI, simulation theory, and much more.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I think the story of Doge from your perspective has never been told? Do you think you were successful?

0:04.7

We're a little bit successful. We're somewhat successful.

0:07.7

Would you ever do Doge again?

0:09.4

I mean, no, I don't think so. I think instead of doing Doge, I would have basically built, you know, worked on my companies, essentially.

0:19.3

And not, and the cars, they wouldn't have been running the cars.

0:22.3

What's your biggest irrational fear? I try not to have irrational fears. None? If I find an irrational

0:27.6

fear, I squelch it. If you had to start from scratch today with only $1,000, what would you do?

0:34.4

Well, I did originally come to North America with like, I don't know, $2,500 Canadian, so I don't know,

0:40.3

the two grand US.

0:41.3

At this point, I have a lot of knowledge.

0:42.3

A lot of things you have to go wrong for that to be the case.

0:45.3

It's like, am I just emerging from prison, perhaps?

0:49.3

With a stipend?

1:05.2

Hi, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of the Katie Miller podcast.

1:09.5

We are in Texas today, joined by the one-n-n-only, Elon Musk.

1:11.6

Nice to see you again, Katie. Nice to see you, Elon.

1:13.6

So I want to take us back.

1:15.6

It's January 20th.

1:17.6

You are in the Roosevelt room, if you remember this,

1:20.6

getting sworn in, and they hand you a computer and a phone.

1:24.6

Right, right.

1:25.6

I want to go back to what happened next.

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