When you live in space, you're entirely at the mercy of life support systems.

Your entire survival depends on manufactured artificial technologies.

Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us.

I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is Manu Sadia.

Manu is the author of Trekanomics, the economics of Star Trek.

And in this week's conversation, we talk about the approach of people like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos to space and space exploration and how they form a narrative of how we should be engaging with space that is not designed to serve scientific ends, but is focused around domination and colonization and these drives that throughout human history we can see are not the things that should be determining our way forward. Instead of being focused on

colonizing Mars and building space colonies, maybe what we should be focusing on is how to

learn as much as we can about space while ensuring that we solve our problems here on

Earth before we try to head out into the stars and plant our flag on other celestial bodies.

I had a great time chatting with Manu, and I think you are really going to like this episode.

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