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“Elon Musk” Biographer Walter Isaacson: Driven By Demons 9/12/23

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CNBC

Business News, Investing, Business, News

4494 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Walter Isaacson’s book “Elon Musk” hit shelves today, after two years of unrestricted access to the Tesla and X chief. The seasoned journalist and biographer discusses the good, bad and ugly behind Musk and the demons that drive him. Isaacson recounts a heated exchange between the Tesla CEO and Bill Gates, how Elon Musk thinks of his own power, and what’s behind Musk’s controversial midnight posts on X. Plus, eight more tech companies including Adobe, IBM, and Nvidia have signed up for President Joe Biden’s voluntary commitments regarding artificial intelligence. Walter Isaacson 14:56 In this episode: Walter Isaacson, @WalterIsaacson Andrew Ross Sorkin, @andrewrsorkin Joe Kernen, @JoeSquawk Becky Quick, @BeckyQuick Katie Kramer, @Kramer_Katie

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm C. NBC producer Katie Kramer, today on Squack Pod.

0:09.0

The Elon Musk Book, finally on shelves.

0:11.7

The billionaire's biographer Walter

0:13.4

Isakson shares details from his two years at Musk's side.

0:16.8

He said, I just learned you punch people as hard as you can in the

0:20.0

nose if they're trying to beat you up. and that's a lesson he does every day.

0:24.0

What made Elon Musk who he is and what issues drive his genius and his hurdles?

0:30.0

Autism spectrum, as you know quite well, can be a wide variety of things.

0:33.9

But in his case, it's an awesome focus, an ability to just filter out everything when he's

0:41.1

on a problem, but also to filter out empathy and the feelings of emotions,

0:46.0

which is not great if you're running a social media network.

0:49.0

Isakson recounts run-ins with other billionaire innovators like Bill Gates.

0:53.0

At some point I get texts from Musk calling Gates

0:57.0

insane and using a word that begins with A and many other things.

1:01.0

He asks and answers, how did Musk get this much power and what's

1:06.5

really going on late at night at the office? There are times when he gets into a

1:10.6

dark late night ambient and red bull dark mode and he will shoot off

1:16.7

tweets, post on X at 3 in the morning and then realize he shouldn't have done some Paul Pelosi retweet.

1:25.8

All that, plus the other headlines that got us squawking today,

1:29.2

like the summer of strikes and the dream of AI.

1:32.3

I give you a trillion for it. Okay, You don't have a trillion? I don't have

1:35.0

apples. No. There you go. It's Tuesday, September 12th. Squawk Pond begins right now. Good morning everybody.

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