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Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Karras Swisher.

And I'm Scott Galloway.

Oh, you sound quiet today, isn't it? Lovely weather in London today. I have landed on my weather app just so I know how you're doing every day.

I think we feel nice. Yeah, it's a bomby 60 degrees here. Yeah, yeah, it's nice. So it's sunny and beautiful. It gets pretty cold in the dark and the winter. It's nice. You're getting so much sun.

But but first off, the important tuning of some horns on with Karras Swisher is the number one pod in news commentary. And more importantly, Scott's book Adrift debuted at number seven on the New York Times bestseller list, hardcover nonfiction.

Really, I did not know that care. I don't fall into trappings. How close I didn't know I was the number one pod in news come to until you told me, but thank you for talking to that.

Yeah. And what's more interesting is who's like numbers once you're 10. It's basically all your buddies on the far far right like don't Shapiro is those is the least crazy of all of them. I know I like to top him. I liked even for a moment. I like to top him.

No, you're it's really interesting. You're number one in news commentary and it's Dan Bongino, Bill O'Reilly, Megan Kelly, Mark, or then I mean, it's sort of in my friends.

It's Saturday night at the Swisher House. Yes. It's literally the worst after party from CPAC. And then they're here.

And you're number one, the people who on the right, they're very they can't get enough of their grievance, you know, or their anger or whatever. They're very loud. I'm going to interview two of those people just so you're aware.

But I want to talk about that. It's like what's the try. I think you can't get you can get the far left worked up, but no, you can't get people worked up like you can on the right there.

It's almost like I think it's more basic than that. I think and I think the I think traditional media outside of Fox. People looking for that content. I can't find it as readily as people on the far left can find it on television.

So I think the podcast had been a place of refuge or whatever a soap box or I think media. I mean, the genius, one of the probably most interesting.

Untapped opportunities that seemed obvious in retrospect is 30 years ago, whenever it was Fox realized that the conservatives don't have a place for media.

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