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DNA: ID

Ellen Mathys and David Schuldes Part 1 of 2

DNA: ID

AbJack Entertainment

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Episode 85 Ellen Mathys and David Schuldes Part 1 of 2

 

A stunning double murder shocked quiet, rural Marinette, Wisconsin in 1976.  A loving engaged couple went camping in one of the verdant parks in the northern part of the state – and were found dead.  David had been shot in the throat; Ellen had been raped and shot to death.  The senseless, seemingly random crime double homicide rocked Marinette County, and set determined investigators on a 40 year journey to catch a killer.  Despite a good sketch of the suspect, he remained unidentified until forensic genealogy led investigators right to his door – 20 miles from the park where he had slain David and Ellen. Prosecutors put together a case against grandfather Raymand Vannieuwenhoven that was largely based on the DNA – would it be enough for the jury?

 

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I'm It was 1976, a young engaged couple, Ellen Matthews and David Shultes, set out to enjoy a weekend of camping in Marinette County, Wisconsin. They headed to the town of Silvercliff, about 100 miles north of their hometown of Green Bay. They drove off in David's AMC Gremlin around 10 a.m. on a warm Friday, July 9th.

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Around 2.35 p.m., a park maintenance man named Stanley, whose last name I couldn't pronounce

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even if I wanted to, arrived at the campground in McClintic Park. He was supposed to check on the

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amount of firewood available to campers. Stanley parked

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and got out of his truck and went over to the woodpile. And then the shocked man noticed

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something on the ground next to one of the two rustic wooden latrine enclosures. There

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in a stand of trees lay a young man. He was lying face up on a path between the camping

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facilities men's and women's restrooms.

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