A woman stab 20, no, make it 23 times, a five-inch gash on the top of her head.

Stab wounds to her neck, the very back of her neck, her fiance nearby, a pristine towel,

despite a very bloody scene in her non-dominant hand being her left hand yet officials are calling this i have to say it

this way on youtube a self unaliving i use that phrase with nancy grace today she said what the

hell are you talking about i said youtube runs the world so i've got to call at that and she yelled

at me like Karm.

Well, the question now remains,

how do you finally get an investigation?

How do you get the feds to step in?

Welcome to the global phenomenon,

Surviving the Survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SCS Nation?

Welcome to Survive and Survivor.

This is the show that brings you the very best guests in all of true crime. And every once in a while, you get a podcast duo that won an award at CrimeCon for best podcast, despite the tears flowing down

my face of pure envy and a little bit of joy for them. Tonight, I am like a rabid pit bull.

I'm not going off this story. Call me a grifter. Call me whatever you want to call me.

I'm around till Ellen Greenberg gets justice. And that's exactly what we're talking about.

This is a story that has really haunted Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love for 14 plus years now.

Now they're saying 23 stab wounds.

I'll ask Brett Nouse about that in just a moment.

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