Hello, welcome to the armchair expert. I'm your host, Zach Braff. Today I'm speaking with a good friend of mine,

Ellen Degenerous. You've probably never heard of her. She's mostly unknown. I mean, she does have a daytime show that's pretty popular she's had many sitcoms in fact

she is such a powerhouse I think she even has a game show that's very popular so

it's hard to get a few minutes with this woman and she was gracious enough to give us some of her time.

This is a shorter episode than you're used to because of her challenging schedule and limited window of opportunity.

So you might notice I'm going a little quick through here.

I'm kind of trying to take you from soup to nuts in an accelerated way.

And you'll just have to bear with that because she is so worth it. Ellen Degenerous.

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He's an up change for. Because I have you for such a short

because I have you for such a short period, I'm going to jump right.

Jump in. Okay?

All right.

I'm going to just tell you that I very much was interested in stand-up when I was younger,

and I used to watch every single stand-up on like Comedy Central wherever they showed it back then.

And I really, really liked you as a comedian when I was younger and the thing that I think is defined you you could differ in this opinion is your embrace of silence and your commitment to your pacing was very, very unique.

And Seinfeld was on Stern the other day

and he was talking about the comedians

he's most drawn to him, has the most amount of respect for,

and it's the ones that can embrace that scary period where you're just

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