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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Elizabeth Wagmeister on the Diddy Trial

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 July 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Larry is joined by reporter and journalist Elizabeth Wagmeister to talk about her experiences covering the Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs federal criminal case for CNN. They begin their conversation by shining a light on the atmosphere both inside and outside the courtroom, and detailing the individual charges being brought against Combs. They then examine the legal definition of sex trafficking and break down how the prosecution's underestimation of the public perception of this case may have blocked their hopes of a stronger verdict (22:48). After the break, Larry and Elizabeth discuss the effectiveness of Cassie’s testimony and it’s possible contribution to the ‘Me Too’ movement’s ultimate goals (30:07). They end the pod by speculating on how this scandal and trial will affect Diddy’s career and brand moving forward (44:10). Host: Larry WilmoreGuest: Elizabeth WagmeisterProducers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:50.1

Hey, welcome back, everybody.

0:52.2

Man, man, man, man.

0:54.3

What a week, week for this ditty trial.

1:00.9

It wrapped up so fast.

1:02.9

I think faster than anybody even thought.

1:05.5

I didn't think it would happen this fast and so much going on.

1:09.5

And we are so lucky to have on the show today.

1:13.7

You've seen her covering this on CNN like a blanket and a chilly night.

1:17.9

I mean, she's like everywhere, like cover it every aspect of it.

1:21.8

She's also with variety.

1:23.0

Elizabeth Wagmeister, welcome to Black on the Air.

1:25.1

Thanks for coming on to talk about this trial.

1:27.0

I know you've been so busy running back and forth in and out of the courtroom and around the courtroom. How

1:33.0

you doing? It has been busy and after covering a trial for two months, it just like you said,

1:39.8

it wrapped up so fast that I think none of us have processed it. It's a whirlwind. But thank you for

1:45.4

having me on. I am such a fan of yours and such a fan of your show. And I've been a fan for a while.

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