I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

now. Joining me today is a friend and one of our

favorite spiritual teachers, Elizabeth Lesser. When she was last here, Elizabeth was in the midst of

a two-year spiritual quest to repair and elevate her relationship with her sister Maggie, who at the

time was dying from cancer. Elizabeth donated her bone marrow to her sister Maggie, and their

shared cells came to symbolize a kind of sacred physical as well as spiritual bond. Maggie passed

away in January 2015, but that eternal connection between the sisters remains. Elizabeth calls their

experience a soul marrow transplant, which she writes about in her memoir, Marrow, a love story.

When you and I last sat down together here, you were in the midst of

love, helping your sister Maggie battle lymphoma, and then she passed. Yes. And I want to know,

how has this past year unfolded for you spiritually and emotionally? Well, the first effect when

I lost her was deep grief, disbelief. You know, the stages of grief they talk about when you're

real. Even though you were prepared. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It sort of doesn't make a difference. I mean,

I've lost my parents and some friends, but this was a long letting go of her, but still it was a

sense of loss. And then there's moments after someone dies, like maybe weeks where the connection is

so strong. If you stay open to it. Yeah. Dreams, visitations, just constantly feeling surrounded by

the person. That was wonderful. And slowly, it begins to lessen as the person moves on and you

move on in your own life. And then I began to kind of metabolize what had happened, because it had

been two very intense years, caring for her, going through the bone marrow transplant, myself being

the donor, the fear of that, the intensity of our relationship. There were months of me finally

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