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I'm Dorothy Wickendon, and on today's Politics and More podcast, David Remnick talks to New Yorker staff writer Elizabeth Colbert about global warming and about how the UN conference in Paris could, perhaps, make a difference.

Now I'm with Elizabeth Colbert, who's been covering climate change for the New Yorker for years. And she's the author of the Pulitzer Prize winning book,

The Sixth Extinction, about the effects of climate change on Earth. No one knows more about this

subject in my estimation, but I have to tell you, and I've known Betsy for a long time, she's

never exactly been a cock-eyed optimist about this or any other subject. So now we're coming to the climate

negotiations in Paris. They begin November 30th. Everybody's talking about it in the most dramatic

terms, as if there's going to be a fantastic breakthrough. Betsy, what are your expectations?

Well, I think that there probably will be an agreement that comes out of Paris that seems to be the direction we're heading in. As you say, there's a lot of optimism. And I think that there's been so many years. This meeting is being called COP 21. Okay, so this is the 21st of these meetings,

and there have been one sort of failure after another. So I think if we don't get an agreement,

you know, the stakes are so high that people are really, really trying to ensure that we get in.

But why is this night different from all other nights? We've seen, we've seen agreements in Kyoto, in Copenhagen, all Ballyhooed on the front pages of newspapers, and

everybody goes home, feeling a little uplifted. President Obama is extremely proud of

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