One of the things about the podcast is I often record the intro right after I have a conversation with my guest.

I don't record it before.

Sometimes I, you know, occasionally I'll go a week or two or whatever later when we're in production.

But you know what?

It's critical that I record the intro to this show right now,

which is what I'm doing, because I just spent the last hour with Liz Gilbert.

Oh my God, was that powerful business right there?

It's so good!

Liz Gilbert, if you do not remember, wrote Eat, Pray, Love,

and I think 2006. And that went on to, I don't know, sell 12 million copies. It became a film

where Julia Roberts played Liz Gilbert. She is an amazing, amazing artist, writer.

After that book, Time Magazine calls her one of the most,

100 most influential people in the world.

Not writer, not female, not novelist, not like 100 most influential people in the world.

And having just spent the last hour with her I know why

What a force of nature.

We had an amazing conversation which covered her new book called City of Girls, which is a novel

about a woman's sexuality, a woman named Vivian, moves to New York City after getting kicked out of

college and gets started into a life of theater. And it's a very powerful novel. I'll let you read it.

I don't want to go any deeper there. But you also know Liz's work from a book in 2015 or 16

called The Big Magic about creativity and fear.

And I'm telling you, we cover a ton of ground in this conversation.

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