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Now that I'm thinking about steroids, I have Poison Oak.

Liz here has Poison Ivy.

You think I should stop talking about my poison.

No, I just think it's a very casual introduction to a very storied guest. Yeah, let's just go.

I'm going to give her real intro.

I got Poison Ivy.

She's a writer to or whatever. Going up my legs all the way to my ass. Hi, let's just go. I'm gonna give her real intro. I got Poison Ivy. She's a writer too or whatever.

Going up my legs all the way to my ass.

Hi, nice to see everybody. Liz, you're such a talented writer that I feel like you're my friend already. I just like told you my life story when you walked in because you just have that. People must tell you that right. Thank you. Oh, you do have that everybody's best friend energy.

And you just, your eyes just narrowed suspiciously.

No, because I'm imagining. you that right thank you oh you do have that everybody's best friend energy and you just your eyes just

narrowed suspiciously no because i'm imagining because of the the way that your work the style of work

my work is uh alienating people i see but your work is you are in you are welcoming people who have

need and so everybody must feel like you're their mom priest

best friend you know what's funny i've watched over the years as that word has changed of what people

say i feel like to them so when it started like i remember when eat pray love came out like in the new

york times review it's like she's like your spirited little sister you know and then it was like a few years later it was like your older sister and then it's like, she's like your spirited little sister, you know, and then it was like, a few years later, it was like, your older sister. And then it was like your mom. And now it's like, like people are like, she's like your warm, she's like a grandma's hug. You know, and I'm like, pretty soon it'll be like, you're a turtle. And then as soon it'll be like, it's, it's your, your former grandma. The spirit was still worse. You're like, much missed grandma. It's like my casting. I used to always get to be the prostitute. And now I'm like the madam, runs the bordello, you know. And now maybe I could be the grandma, I guess. Nothing tells you about how you're perceived like Hollywood casting. Wow. It's just like, I immediately moved to L.A. and it was just like, you're, you are a dork or you are

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