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Elizabeth Day talks to debut writer Raven Leilani.

Books and Authors

BBC

Society & Culture, Books

4.2824 Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2021

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Elizabeth Day talks to debut writer Raven Leilani.

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0:00.0

In Northern Ireland, from the late 70s to the early 90s, the IRA killed over 40 alleged informers.

0:08.0

But the man who often found, tortured and sometimes killed these people on behalf of the IRA

0:12.0

was himself an informer, a secret British army agent with the codename Stakeknife.

0:18.0

Who gets to play God? And why me? Why my family? When lies are still being told to this day,

0:24.0

who do you believe? I wouldn't even know where to start and I'm with the IRA.

0:28.5

Steakknife. Listen first on BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, music, Radio, podcasts.

0:38.1

Hello there.

0:46.2

On Open Book today, we examine the female protagonists and their creators who refuse to play by the rules.

0:53.1

They include the author of one of 2021's most anticipated debuts, and yes, I know it's still only January,

0:56.3

and the life and work of Tova Ditley-Aveson,

1:03.2

a brutally honest Danish writer whose work is enjoying a comeback. And we travel, although sadly only in our minds, to Quebec. But let's start, as is only right, with the debut. Luster by Raven Lailani is already a bestseller in the States after having been published there last year.

1:16.6

It arrives on these shores garlanded with critical praise from the likes of Candice Carty Williams and Zadie Smith.

1:24.0

Luster tells the story of Edie, an unapologetically chaotic 23-year-old, who, when the book opens,

1:30.3

works as a lowly paid publishing assistant, one of only two black women in the office.

1:36.3

It is a job she will shortly be fired from.

1:39.3

When Edie starts dating Eric, a white middle-aged archivist, who also just so happens to have a wife and an adopted black daughter, she finds herself drawn into the uncomfortable power play at the centre of their open marriage.

1:54.2

Lelani writes about the shifting tensions between sex, race, money and identity with a sharp wit and dark hilarity.

2:02.5

And I'm delighted that Raven now joins me down the line from New York.

2:07.0

Raven, welcome.

2:08.3

Thank you for having me.

2:09.9

Could you start by reading us the passage where Eric and Edie establish the boundaries of their relationship, please?

2:17.7

Absolutely. I'd like to lay my cards on the table, he says, withdrawing his hand.

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