I started thinking, okay, the person who's saying something nasty or being nasty,

maybe they're just, you know, they just popped off a bad tweet.

So why am I going to respond to that and then keep this whole cycle going?

Right. You know, and oftentimes I'll tell myself like,

maybe they probably have a point. I probably am annoying.

Yeah, I tried to do that too. Maybe I was an asshole.

Meena Dunham had a great quote where she said, I guess I'm not for everyone.

Yeah, but I now think about that myself when people have valid uh,

dunks. And I'm like, yeah, well, I guess I'm not for everyone.

I'm John Favreau. Welcome to offline.

Hey, everyone. My guess this week is Liz Brunig, a journalist who's worked at the Washington

Post, the New York Times, and now the Atlantic. I wanted to talk to Liz because she's

researched and written extensively about what she calls one of life's most morally challenging

tasks. Forgiveness. Forgiveness may not seem like a topic that's directly connected to the

internet, but one of the things I wanted to do with the series is focus on issues that the

internet has made more difficult to solve. And I actually think this is a big one, especially

at a time when people seem unusually angry at each other all the time. You see it on planes,

you see it at sporting events, and of course, you see it all over social media. And it's not

just about politics anymore. Nearly two years into this pandemic, people seem angry about almost

everything. A lot of this anger is understandable, even warranted. And I don't think any of us want

to live in a society where we don't hold people accountable for the harm that they cause others.

But I think it's worth asking what happens if we don't give people more space to learn from their

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