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🗓️ 11 December 2025
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What if the most powerful woman in Anne Boleyn’s story never spoke on the record? Elizabeth Boleyn steps out of the shadows in this revelatory Tudor deep-dive. Professor Suzannah Lipscomb is joined by Sophie Bacchus-Waterman to piece together the elusive life of Anne Boleyn’s mother, from Howard girlhood to court matriarch, exploring power, silence and survival amid the dangerous glitter of Henry VIII’s court.
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Presented by Professor Suzannah Lipscomb. The researcher is Max Wintle, edited and produced by Rob Weinberg. The senior producer is Anne-Marie Luff.
All music courtesy of Epidemic Sounds.
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| 0:34.9 | Hello, I'm Professor Susanna Lipscomb and welcome welcome to Not Just the Tudors from History Hit, |
| 0:40.7 | the podcasts in which we explore everything from Anne Boleyn to the Aztecs, |
| 0:45.2 | from Holbein to the Huguenots, from Shakespeare to Samarise, |
| 0:49.8 | relieved by regular doses of murder, espionage and witchcraft. |
| 0:54.0 | Not in other words, just the Tudors, but most definitely also the Tudors. |
| 1:10.6 | Every great story has its missing figures, the ones who shaped history from the edges of the stage. |
| 1:17.9 | In this episode, we're delving into the life of one such elusive woman, Elizabeth Berlin, mother of Queen Anne Boleyn, whose presence in the drama of Trude England has long been obscured by silence. |
| 1:30.8 | Our guest historian Sophie Bacchus Waterman has taken on the challenge of bringing Elizabeth out of the shadows. |
| 1:38.1 | Her new book asks why this woman, who stood at the heart of one of the most notorious families of the 16th century |
| 1:44.2 | has been left almost invisible in the historical record. |
| 1:48.6 | There are no letters, no portraits, no words in her own voice. |
| 1:53.9 | Yet, as Sophie reveals, absence itself can tell a story. |
| 1:59.1 | Drawing on fragmentary records and a deep understanding of Tudor |
| 2:02.1 | Society, she pieces together Elizabeth's world, her upbringing among the powerful Howards, |
| 2:07.3 | her marriage to Thomas Berlin, and her role as wife, mother, and courtier. We see it not just as a |
| 2:13.9 | supporting character in Anne's rise and fall, but as a woman of intelligence, influence and quiet resilience. |
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