Eliza Manningham-Buller chooses Abraham Lincoln
Great Lives
BBC
4.2 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 26 January 2016
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Former director of MI5, Eliza Manningham-Buller, tells Matthew Parris why she regards Abraham Lincoln as a great life.
But will her hero stand up to intensive scrutiny and merit the description of having led a great life? The expert is Dr Tony Hutchison, from the American Studies Department at the University of Nottingham.
The producer is Perminder Khatkar.
First broadcast on BBC Radio 4 in 2016.
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| 0:00.0 | Great Lives is a download from Radio 4. |
| 0:02.7 | We hope you enjoy what you're about to hear. |
| 0:05.3 | Here's the Houston Telegraph on our great life today. |
| 0:09.4 | The leanest, lanchest, most ungainly mass of legs and arms and hatchet face ever strung on a single frame, |
| 0:16.3 | he has most unwarrantably abused the privilege which all politicians have of being ugly. Here's the New York Herald. The small intellect growing |
| 0:26.9 | smaller, a fourth-rate lecturer who cannot speak good grammar and who delivers |
| 0:31.5 | hackneyed illiterate compositions. |
| 0:34.9 | And here's my own paper, The Times, on our great life's most famous speech. |
| 0:40.3 | Anything more dull and commonplace it wouldn't be easy to reproduce. |
| 0:45.0 | Abraham Lincoln is this week's choice, and he's championed by Eliza Manningham Buller, a former |
| 0:50.8 | director general of our security Service, MI5. |
| 0:54.0 | It's a big life, Lady Manningham Buller, no doubt, but why him for you? |
| 1:00.0 | Well, first those journalists may have got his appearance right but nothing else I think. |
| 1:06.8 | I first became interested in Lincoln when I was posted to the British Embassy in Washington in |
| 1:11.6 | 1990. My job was to try and improve the exchange |
| 1:16.7 | of intelligence largely with the FBI, also the CIA, and I knew nobody in Washington. I had one telephone number of a friend of my sisters |
| 1:26.9 | to contact. It was to begin with and so I thought you know when you're lonely |
| 1:31.7 | take up an interest so I thought I would learn a bit about the Civil War, which of course happened all round |
| 1:38.4 | Washington, lots of battlefields within easy range. And as I read into the subject a bit, I found Lincoln really |
| 1:48.2 | the most interesting figure of that whole complex bit of American history. You introduced him for his ugliness. |
| 1:56.7 | He certainly was the first to say what he looked like and be rude about his own appearance but that's in a way one of the |
| 2:04.8 | things I like about him he's very different to many a current politician he's without |
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