Good afternoon, Michael Malice here. Let it be your welcome for the next hour. We have with us a very special

episode in the 80s sitcom kind of sense because my guest today is Eliza Blue and we're going to talk about something really really serious which is human trafficking and how it is still a thing on social media and in our culture and Eliza being an activist and survivor of human trafficking her campaign to do what she can to fight this stuff and Eliza you know I follow you are my locals you post about this stuff a lot. This is our

obviously as intense as it gets one of the things that for people who aren't familiar with the term you know human trafficking there was that law that was recently passed and as a result you saw things like like Craigslist and retman getting shut down but that's not what you're talking about you're not talking about people who are like adult sex workers can you describe what you mean by human trafficking and how big of an effect is it in our culture and internationally yes for well I wanted to congratulate you on your book

oh thank you I mean can we just talk I mean okay look I know the topic's very serious but let's talk about you can we please talk about awesome your book is doing for a second no we're talking about human trafficking okay okay so yeah so I have no problem with willing we're talking about the book for this is over yeah so I have no problem with willing adult sex workers or willing adult entertainers so when I talk about human trafficking I'm talking about forced fraud a coercion for the sale of labor sex black market human organs child soldiers

forced child begging and illegal adoption and in some in in some cases illegal child marriage not all child marriage unfortunately is illegal or considered human trafficking and the list goes on and on so when we talk about human trafficking it's a very broad extremely nuanced crime in my particular case I am a survivor was trafficked domestically here in the United States and I'm a United States citizen so

So that's kind of, it was a sex trafficking in my particular case and so I don't have any

problem with willing adult sex workers, I don't have a problem with willing adult entertainers.

Unfortunately, sometimes the conversations get a little muddy.

So I try to separate them as much as possible.

What I like to focus on for the most part is child sexual abuse material, particularly

on our social media platforms.

Yeah, one of the things that I saw and I would love you to go into this at some length is Jack Dorsey

had been following you and yeah, and you were complaining, you were pointing out a count after

account that was posting child pornography.

We're not talking about someone making some joke or a little rude comment about children.

We're talking about full-blown child pornography.

You are bringing this to Twitter's attention and they not only didn't care.

I think in some cases, you are the one who got in trouble or other people have gotten

their accounts locked for complaining about it.

This seems completely incomprehensible to me because even 4chan, my buddy Jay, is a

mod of 4chan.

The one thing 4chan will ban CP's child pornography.

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