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Hello everybody, this is Ron Stoddard, Jesse Holden, his social media manager, and I am in charge of the intro today because Ron is out of town. Oh, it feels weird to call him Ron. My dad is out of town, and so I get to cover the intro. I'm going to spare you the 10 to 12 minutes of ads. I am going to, of course, thank all of our sponsors, but first I really want to say thank you to any past and current possibly future Patreon members. I

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All right, everybody. All right. No one's going to believe this that the hunting dog podcast is going. I don't want to say to the dogs. It's going to the labs. Okay. So very, very, I mean, a dozen episodes, maybe in nine years.

I want to give people a little backdrop. I was fortunate enough to be invited down to the Purina headquarters and Olin farms and a ball game with a whole bunch of people in the world of Purina, whether they're trainers or writers from magazines, about a whole bunch of people. And this one person stood out to me while I was there. His name is Pat Burns. So Pat, welcome to the show. How you doing?

I'm great, Ron. Thank you for having me. I think I think what we met, you know, you know when you shake hands with somebody, sometimes you just make that eye contact and there's a certain smile there. And you just know the person is as happy to be there as you are, right?

And that's what I met you as like, oh, it's funny. You get a bunch of outgoing, let's say, a type personality dog trainer, you know, people that are known to do good, you know, really good stuff and whatever venue they've done and they're down there.

Yeah, when you're all getting one room together, the first time you meet, there's a little bit of quiet, right? You kind of feel everybody out, but you're just like, hi, I'm Pat Burns. And I was like, I like, I like that kind of attitude. But Pat, for history ways, I read up on you and I know you from a couple days of going to the ball game and and going around with Purina, but give everybody your background.

Well, Ron, I grew up not too far from where you did. I grew up in Northwest Indiana.

And that's where I started in the world of retrievers, like so many people.

Well, I didn't grow, my family did not grow up hunters, but I picked up the hobby in high school and also took us one step into the Kentucky river over the top of my waiters when I realized I needed a dog. So

that was where when I started and I actually I started with just big bay retrievers and I got my first dog and ran into a guy in Merival, Indiana, Tom Philinsky and he was part of a group of guys that trained for field draw competition and they invited me out to come train and I'll tell you what, when I saw what a highly trained competition retriever could do. I was hooked pretty quickly.

Yeah, you know, we liked the pointing dog story, but it's usually not we don't get hooked on the training. We get hooked on that first mysterious that's first point right and then something explodes out of the grass and then you're like, oh, the first time I saw a dog point.

I fell in love with pointing dogs, but it you had to see you saw performance to fall in love with it before you saw the dog probably well, I certainly saw them. I'm sure what I what I saw initially was a dog doing a long blind retrieve and when I can when I saw a dog sit on a whistle and take hand signals at the distance as they were I was I was blown away at what was what was available what dogs could do.

And, you know, I was a hunter and I'm still on her.

And so the advantage of having a dog that you could guide to a bird or blind retrieve two, three, 400 yards was an amazing feat for me and it's certainly gotten me I dove in with both feet like I do with everything I do.

Well, here's the here's a sit in the bar smart ass comment. Okay, you got to see a wonderful version of a blind retrieve. How long did it take before you accomplish that with one of your dogs.

A few years, you know, and then I went and I was invited to go see a field troll. It was a retriever club, Michigan a retriever club that was in.

Over towards Fort Wayne, Indiana and that was that was the first trial I went to and I ran some trials, probably an area or I went and watched some trials. I bet you you did some stuff.

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