Or what are some of the ways that just human beings normalize trauma?

First of all, because they just don't understand that it's trauma.

I think our parents' generation normalized beating kids because obedience was the way to have healthy children.

Is our society trauma informed or is our society trauma ignorant?

We're totally trauma ignorant. and I think that we're

trauma confused because there's a lot of gurus out there who are saying things about trauma that

make it more confusing and so everybody thinks that they have the correct idea when many people do not.

For a woman to make a business and a life and a media platform around supporting the mental health of men,

I just don't necessarily see that too often. Why men? Why now? Why you?

It was this perfect alignment of I'm ready to help serve.

And it was men who reached out to me and I just saw that they didn't have a lot of support when it came to mental health.

So I just decided that I would be that support for them.

Elise, this is really cool.

I was telling you before we hit that red record, I reached out to you because I was so inspired

by the content you were putting out on my IG, you know, the algorithms just sent me something

that hit me in the heart.

And I was floored with how many people are resonating with who you are,

what you do in the world, and how you serve. So welcome to wellness and wisdom.

Thank you so much for having me here. And like I said, I feel super honored that you found me,

found my content. Well, this is actually the cool part of tech where a lot of times people,

when they're in the grocery store, out in life and they're mindlessly scrolling, Instagram will send them stuff that keeps them either in fear or keeps them disempowered.

But it was cool because I got sent your content at a time where I was actually personally going through a learning lesson about the polarity in myself.

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