Life is made up of stories, the stories we've been told, the stories we tell ourselves and the stories we tell others.

And my guest today encourages us all to pause and pull these stories apart

so we can weave the threads back together

to become a richer, more authentic version of ourselves.

Elise Lunin is a best-selling author, editor, podcast host,

and former chief content officer at Goop. She's a synthesizer, a

seeker, and a sharer. So beautifully braiding together wisdom, traditions, culture,

and a deep knowledge of healing in order to unlock new ways to look at who we are and why we're here.

At the heart of all she does is storytelling, taking in every life experience and all the information she's learned and sharing it with the world.

And that's just what she is doing in her latest book,

on our best behavior, the seven deadly sins and the price women pay to be good, exploring perfectionism,

insecurities, and how we can often be our own toughest critics, offering her own perspective

on why this may be.

Elise leads with an open mind and an open heart,

and she's just so full of wisdom.

She's introducing us all to new ideas, new concepts, and new ways of thinking, helping us to shape the story of our lives.

I'm Hodakotby. Welcome to my podcast, Making Space. making space. First of all, I've been dying to sit with you and have a long conversation with you.

And let's just go back because I want people to get to know you from the beginning.

So let's start here. Okay, close your eyes. I already like it. You are in the bedroom that you grew up in as a child. You can see the walls, what's on the walls, what's kind of sheets you had had what kind of books from the bookcase

now open your eyes and just tell me what that bedroom looked like.

So my bedroom was incredibly practical and not childlikelike, which is telling of my parents who are practical people.

And the primary decorative element is books and books,

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