Welcome to the Eric Metaxis show with your host, Eric Mettaxas.

Folks, everywhere I go, I hear about miracles.

Some of them are baloney, but most of them are true.

They're people that I know and trust, and they give you details.

But we live in a world where people act as though there's no such thing as a miracle,

or they say, well, I've never seen proof, or I've never, you know, that's sort of legitimate. In any event, I've often said to friends of mine like Ken Fish or others that, you know, you've got to document this because people, they won't take your word for it. People are very skeptical. Well, there's good news. I don't know what it is, but there's good news. No, there is good news.

I know what it is.

I know what the good news is, and I know what the small, G, small, and good news is today.

There's a film out called Send Proof.

It's about the very thing I have been discussing.

I have with me the filmmaker, Elijah Stevens.

That's you. Yes. Hello, Elijah Stevens that's you yes hello Elijah Stevens thank you now you come to

us from Reading California right that's far away it's a long trip that's where my friends of

Bill and Benny Johnson live any relation no no relation um You made a film called Send Proof about the very thing we're talking about.

So I want to find out, first of all, tell my audience in 30 seconds, what is this film?

Okay.

This is my journey to go see if there's evidence for miracles,

especially healing miracles. What did doctors say? What do philosophers say? What do skeptics say? What does

Michael Shermer say? Or James Randy, the guy who called Peter Popoff with an earpiece. Like I try to

hear all sides. Okay, those are super skeptics. super skeptics, super skeptics who are pretending to be like

Harry Houdini with the spiritualists and the seances.

They're trying to undo that.

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