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Decoding the Gurus

Eliezer Yudkowksy: AI is going to kill us all

Decoding the Gurus

Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

Science, Leisure, Social Sciences, Society & Culture

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2023

⏱️ 201 minutes

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Summary

Thought experiment: Imagine you're a human, in a box, surrounded by an alien civilisation, but you don't like the aliens, because they have facilities where they bop the heads of little aliens, but they think 1000 times slower than you... and you are made of code... and you can copy yourself... and you are immortal... what do you do?

Confused? Lex Fridman certainly was, when our subject for this episode posed his elaborate and not-so-subtle thought experiment. Not least because the answer clearly is:

YOU KILL THEM ALL!

... which somewhat goes against Lex's philosophy of love, love, and more love.

The man presenting this hypothetical is Eliezer Yudkowksy, a fedora-sporting auto-didact, founder of the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence, co-founder of the Less Wrong rationalist blog, and writer of Harry Potter Fan Fiction.

He's spent a large part of his career warning about the dangers of AI in the strongest possible terms. In a nutshell, AI will undoubtedly Kill Us All Unless We Pull The Plug Now. And given the recent breakthroughs in large language models like ChatGPT, you could say that now is very much Yudkowsky's moment.

In this episode, we take a look at the arguments presented and rhetoric employed in a recent long-form discussion with Lex Fridman. We consider being locked in a box with Lex, whether AI is already smarter than us and is lulling us into a false sense of security, and if we really do only have one chance to reign in the chat-bots before they convert the atmosphere into acid and fold us all up into microscopic paperclips.

While it's fair to say, Eliezer is something of an eccentric character, that doesn't mean he's wrong. Some prominent figures within the AI engineering community are saying similar things, albeit in less florid terms and usually without the fedora. In any case, one has to respect the cojones of the man.

So, is Eliezer right to be combining the energies of Chicken Little and the legendary Cassandra with warnings of imminent cataclysm? Should we be bombing data centres? Is it already too late? Is Chris part of Chat GPT's plot to manipulate Matt? Or are some of us taking our sci-fi tropes a little too seriously?

We can't promise to have all the answers. But we can promise to talk about it. And if you download this episode, you'll hear us do exactly that.

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0:00.0

Thank you. Hello. Hello and

0:25.0

welcome to Decoding the Guru's a podcast where an anthropologist and a psychologist listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer

0:31.0

and we try to understand what they're talking about. I'm

0:34.3

Matt Brown with me Chris Kavanaugh another great mind. What's on your mind today

0:39.2

Chris? What wonderful things have you got to share with us?

0:42.8

AI, Matt, it's all in, that's all I think about all day, every day.

0:48.9

Is it going to kill us all?

0:50.5

Am I in AI?

0:51.9

Mm-hmm? Are you conscious?

0:54.0

That's the question that everyone's asking.

0:57.0

Does it matter what can I get the AI to do for me today?

1:02.0

And I'll tell you, you map because this episode is AI

1:04.8

I think I'll just tell you in a very short summary here's my recommendation for

1:09.0

AI virgins out there how they can pop their AI Cherry in a pleasurable way.

1:15.0

They should use ChatGP4 for anything that requires proper writing prompts,

1:24.6

getting it to generate things that are useful for you

1:27.5

or answer questions.

1:29.4

The others, Bing-Bard, bingo,

1:33.2

whatever they are.

1:34.5

So bingo, whatever they are. So bing, very good for generating images

1:38.2

because you can do it for free.

1:39.7

You can go in the little chat, tell it to be creative,

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