When the opinion links, I was like, oh, damn, they're just going to fire festival this.

They're just going to be legends.

Yeah.

All right.

And that changed the game.

Two, three, four.

Two, three, four.

Hello, fellow law nerds.

Welcome to a special episode of Boom Lawyered, a Rewire News Group podcast hosted by the legal journalism team. That is me. I'm ReWire News Group senior editor of law and policy, Imani Gandhi. And today, I'm super excited because I am joined by the one, the only, Ellie Mistal. He is the nation's justice correspondent. He covers

the courts, criminal justice system and politics. He is an Alfred Nobler fellow at the

type media center. And if you haven't read his book, The Best Selling, Allow Me to Retort,

colon, a black guy's guide to the Constitution, I don't know what's wrong with you.

I have it an audio, hardback, and paperback.

So you can call me an Ellie, Mr. I'll stand.

If you must, I will take on that moniker.

Ellie, thank you so much for joining us today or joining me.

It's so nice to be on with you.

This is the last official work event I have before some downtime and vacation.

Downtown and vacation that you are most deserving of. My workwife, Jessica Mason Piccolo, is actually

on some downtime in vacation herself. She packed up the fam and drove across the country to escape

the shenanigans. So thank you for deciding to step in and join me in today's shenanigans.

And honestly, my first question for you is just going to be, what the hell, man?

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