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Evan & Tiki

Eli, Belichick, and the New York What Ifs That Changed Everything

Evan & Tiki

Audacy

Sports

4.2988 Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Evan Roberts and Tiki Barber dive into two fascinating New York football what ifs, starting with Eli Manning’s newly detailed explanation for why he wanted no part of the Chargers before landing with the Giants. His story about a tense dinner with San Diego’s decision makers adds a fresh layer to one of the most important draft day sagas in NFL history. The conversation then turns to Bill Belichick’s explanation for walking away from the Jets, including his concerns about the team’s ownership future and the alternate reality of James Dolan buying the franchise. The guys also touch on Mets and Yankees fallout from the Subway Series, Carlos Mendoza’s managing, Clay Holmes pitching through a broken leg, and what it all means for both teams moving forward.

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0:00.0

Yeah, you're a big part of this.

0:01.1

So let's start with the Giants.

0:02.2

We have breaking news around Eli Manning forcing his way to the New York Giants, which obviously turned out to be pretty good, two Super Bowls, eventually a Hall of Fame career, lifelong giant. Everybody's happy. Legend. He's a beloved legend. And it didn't always start off that way. I remember back to when Eli forced his way here, I as an IFO or just as a jet fan back then

0:24.7

I'm back then. We were actually a functioning franchise. They had a Hall of Fame tied in, too. Antonio Gates, yeah. I mean, he could have played with a Hall of Fame running back. From a roster standpoint and a weather standpoint, it was great. It never made sense. So the stereotype was, well, it was Archie. It was Archie. Wanted New York, the New York City, the limelight, whatever the reason. And so Eli Manning did an interview, the Boston with the Boys podcast and revealed like specific stories and reasons for why he didn't want to go to the Chargers. And this part I'm about to play for you is something I've never heard before.

1:12.8

I don't know if Eli's ever talked about it until now on why he didn't want to go to the San Diego Chargers.

1:19.9

They came to work me out in New Orleans and went to a full workout.

1:25.6

We went to dinner that night. And there was this friction between, you know, the head coach, the general manager, like the owners. They're all, like, yelling, kind of like fighting. We're at a Marriott, like, you know, restaurant. And, you know, Schenheimer's mad that we're, he's like, we're in New Orleans, reading out of Marriott.

1:44.5

And, you know,

1:45.0

so he's like pissed. They're like kind of just bickering. And it just seemed, it didn't seem like there was a whole lot of like agreement on things. And like they were kind of like committed to building a great winning franchise at that moment. I never heard. And you know what? when you hear that, like, okay, he's at dinner

2:01.6

with the Chargers, and you got Marty Schontenheimer,

2:03.8

you got Dean Sp like, okay, he's at dinner with the Chargers and you got Marty

2:03.2

Schoenheimer, you got Dean Spanos, you got all these power brokers, and you can sense

2:07.5

that they're not getting along.

2:08.8

Yeah.

2:09.1

That is definitely a sign of, do I really want to go there?

2:11.7

No, Alex Spanos.

2:12.7

Alex Spanos.

2:13.5

Right.

2:13.8

Who's Dean Spanos?

2:14.7

Isn't that the owner? That's his brother. Now I'm forgetting.

2:19.3

One of the Spanos is.

2:21.3

And I guess he sort of turned out right because Marty Schottnheimer got fired three years later, but the Chargers did have great success.

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