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The Disclosure Podcast

Eleven Madison Park abandons all-vegan menu, but was this planned from the beginning?

The Disclosure Podcast

Ed Winters

Ethics, Politics, Whole Foods, Society & Culture, Education, Animals, Morality, Veganism, Philosophy, Vegan, Plant Based Diet

5.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

In today's episode of The Disclosure Podcast, I discuss the recent announcement that Eleven Madison Park is going to be reintroducing meat. So, what are the reasons why, what does this mean for veganism and does an interview with the New York Times reveal that this was destined to happen all along? For more exclusive content and personal writing from me, check out my Substack here. On my Substack, I share not only my own reflections and personal thoughts on veganism, but also my journey and s...

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0:00.0

So the fine dining restaurant 11 Madison Park, which is in New York City, has just recently announced that they are going to be reintroducing meat back onto their menu.

0:10.3

This follows in the footsteps of other previously plant-based restaurants and eateries which have made the same decision.

0:17.0

But is there a message in all of this? Is there a warning that we as a community should be concerned about?

0:22.9

What exactly do these recent examples of restaurants telling their back on plant-based eating tell us about the state of veganism?

0:30.9

This is the Disclosure Podcast.

1:11.5

Okay. The podcast. Welcome to the Disclosure Podcast. If you enjoy this episode and the work that I'm doing here, then please consider checking out my substack where I post regular articles. You can also support my work by becoming a paid

1:17.0

member of my substack, through which you will also gain access to weekly articles or by making

1:22.1

a donation through my website. Links for everything can be found in this episode's show notes.

1:28.8

For those of you who do support my work, thank you so much. I am incredibly grateful and appreciated very much. Leaving a review for this

1:35.4

podcast is also really helpful and encourages more people to listen to it. I hope you find this

1:40.6

episode interesting and informative and thank you for listening.

1:53.8

So 11 Madison Park went plant-based back in 2021 following the first year or so of the COVID-19 pandemic. And just before we dive into some of the statements they've made just in the past week or so,

1:58.8

I want to highlight a statement they made back then,

2:01.6

which alludes to why they made the decision to go plant-based in the first place. So this is from the owner of 11 Madison Park.

2:08.6

I started to realize the impact that animal farming has all over the world. I started to realize what was going on in the fish industry and how broken it is.

2:16.6

I started to feel guilty because I felt that for fish industry and how broken it is. I started to feel

2:17.9

guilty because I felt that for a long time, I didn't question enough exactly where our food was

2:23.0

coming from. When you have that knowledge, you have the responsibility to speak about it. What's

2:29.8

changed? What's different now? Why is this statement no longer relevant four years later? I mean,

2:37.4

has there been some huge shift in terms of how we farm animals? Has the world completely altered? Has the

2:43.1

planet been rescued from climate disaster? Is it now this sweepingly ethical system that we don't

2:49.8

have to be worried about.

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