This is a Cato special podcast. I'm Caleb Brown. It's not yet clear, but this

weekend's elections in Zimbabwe have apparently left Robert Mugabe in his

weakest position in many years.

Cato Institute Policy analyst Marion Tupi suggests what ought to be next for Zimbabwe.

All the indications are that Morgan's Fangarai and his movement for Democratic

change which is the opposition party in Zimbabwe won massive victory in Saturday's elections.

We know that because the actual votes have been counted on the precinct level, They've been counted and then posted on at the polling stations.

And all of that data was then given to a to an MDC nerve center, election nerve center if you will in Johannesburg who then

People there then collated at that and they've come up with the following numbers. They believe that they

will have a majority in Parliament. They believe that the governing party is going to be completely obliterated in the parliamentary elections.

And they also believe that Robert Mugabe was defeated by Morgan Swangarai and that Swangarai won 60% of the vote. Now since

Saturday's elections the Central Zimbabwean Electoral commission refused to release the official results of both

parliamentary and presidential election and there is a great deal of concern that they are using

this time in order to create electoral fraud and declare

Janupiev and a Robert Mugabe winners.

Assuming that Mugabe is not able to hold on to power,

what are the immediate next steps that Zimbabwe needs to take

to begin to stop the bleeding, such as inflation of 100,000 percent abject poverty everywhere.

Well, first you need political stability. In other words, whatever happens of this week and assuming that one way or another

and Mugabe departs what you need to accomplish is is an acknowledgement by all

levels of Zimbabwean society that the regime has changed,

that the opposition has in fact come to power. Once you have the political stability in the country,

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