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🗓️ 27 May 2020
⏱️ 43 minutes
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In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with Laura Rosenberger, Senior Fellow and Director of the Alliance for Securing Democracy at the nonpartisan German Marshall Fund of the United States. Rosenberger details the breadth of foreign interference threats the U.S. faces ahead of the 2020 presidential election from known actors like Russia, China, Iran and others. Morell and Rosenberger assess the preparedness of the U.S. to respond to those threats and the overall resilience of the public in the face of increasingly sophisticated disinformation campaigns. They also examine whether the U.S. should consider responding to those campaigns in kind.
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0:08.4 | This is Intelligence Matters with former acting director of the CIA, Michael Morrell. Brought to you by |
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0:17.6 | One of the biggest |
0:19.2 | concerns I have about the 2020 election is in fact the degree to which our own domestic divisions |
0:27.9 | have number one made it very challenging for us to respond effectively to any foreign interference if it were to occur and |
0:35.8 | if it is occurring which I |
0:38.3 | You know, I think most assessments are that it is at least some level in two, you know that divided society really provides such a ripe |
0:47.1 | environment for these kinds of manipulative tactics and I guess actually one more point on that is that you know again |
0:53.6 | This relates to the COVID conversation the sort of polluted information environment that we see in general whether it's around COVID whether it's around |
1:02.0 | Whole host of other issues again really makes for a little bit of a tender box if you will where it doesn't take that much to |
1:10.8 | really exacerbate or blow open some of the challenges that we have domestically |
1:16.1 | So Laura what about |
1:20.6 | Approaches to election systems. Are we still seeing that and have we seen any different |
1:27.2 | Kinds of approaches than what we saw in 2016 in 2020 we haven't seen any |
1:32.3 | Reports so far of the targeting of electoral infrastructure. It is an area where we frankly have a lot more visibility than we did in |
1:41.2 | 2016 what I worry about is |
1:44.0 | A scenario in which you know a lot of states are |
1:48.0 | Enabling much greater absentee voting or male voting for the November election rightly so to |
1:56.1 | help support people's ability to safely vote |
1:59.0 | But that's going to mean a much slower process to count the ballots and there's a very good chance that we're not going to know the results right away |
2:06.5 | And you combine that with potentially a bit of disinformation about what's gone on |
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