Welcome back to the Ten Blocks podcast.

This is Brian Anderson, the editor of City Journal.

Joining me on today's show is Tom Bevan.

Tom is the co-founder and president of Real Clear Politics, the indispensable website during elections and generally for anyone interested in politics at any time.

So if you're not a regular visitor, you should

absolutely check out RCP, of course. You can also follow Tom on Twitter at Tom Bevan

RCP. Tom is also, I think it's fair to say, an old friend of City Journal, and we're excited

to have them on the podcast today to talk about what's going on

right now. Tom, thanks so much for joining us today. Absolutely, Brian. Good to be with you.

You know, the big question everyone is asking is obviously, is the election still on? Do the Trump

campaign's legal challenges have any chance of succeeding, in your view, and how many

votes would really have to shift to change the election outcome, which, you know, the mainstream

press outlets and social media platforms are encouraging everyone to see as definitive, but maybe

they're not so definitive.

Yeah, I mean, it's hard to tell exactly, you know, how this is going to shake out. I mean, and where the, how much merit each one of

these different court cases has. I think some of them have some

merit. Others don't. And I mean, the problem for the Trump campaign is, is that, you know,

he's going to need to change the outcome in three states. This is not just flipping 500 votes in a single state or

5,000 votes in a single state. It is, you know, 15,000 votes, just under 15,000 in Arizona.

It's, you know, just over 12,000 in Georgia. And, and then it's, you know, it's 47,000 and growing in Pennsylvania.

And so I think it's an uphill battle.

I think the president has every right to make his case in court.

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