Election Meltdown, Part 4
Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts
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🗓️ 15 February 2020
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
In the fourth part of this special five-part series of Amicus, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by election law professor Rick Hasen and Professor Carol Anderson, Charles Howard Candler Professor of African American Studies at Emory University and author of One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression is Destroying Our Democracy.
Together, they try to sort through the rhetoric and the reality of “stolen” elections.
Rick Hasen’s new book Election Meltdown forms the basis for this special series of Amicus.
Join Slate for the Election Meltdown live show on Feb. 19 in Washington.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi and welcome back to amicus. I'm Dahlia Lithwick. I cover the courts and the law for Slate. And I am also covering for this special series of amicus voting. This is part four of our election meltdown series. It's produced with Rick Hassam, election law professor at UC Irvine, and author of the new book, Election Meltdown, upon which this series is based. Welcome back, Rick. |
| 0:31.5 | Great to be with you. What, I ask, could possibly go wrong with November's election? |
| 0:38.9 | So I've got two scenarios that really worried me. |
| 0:42.2 | Imagine a Florida-2-000-type situation with Trump in the White House. |
| 0:47.0 | Then those precincts can't be counted. |
| 0:48.9 | Pretty wide-scale voter purge. |
| 0:51.1 | We've been asking civil rights lawyers, public officials, local journalists, and disinformation experts for their election doomsday scenarios. |
| 0:58.6 | Imagine deep fake the night before an election. |
| 1:01.8 | A scenario in which people did leave the internet and take much more physical action. |
| 1:08.3 | Our system is only going to work if people have enough confidence in it that they can |
| 1:14.0 | accept the results. We're not asking these questions so we all spiral into despair, but instead to think |
| 1:19.4 | about what we could do now before November to protect the most important thing we do as Americans |
| 1:24.2 | voting. Of course, if you want to spiral into despair, that's totally on you. |
| 1:29.3 | But if you want to be part of this unbelievably important conversation, do join us in Washington, D.C. |
| 1:34.9 | on February 19th for the Amicus Election Meltdown Live Show featuring former Florida |
| 1:40.7 | gubernatorial candidate, Andrew Gillum, McArthur Genius Fellow, and vice president |
| 1:45.2 | of the Cyber Civil Rights Initiative, Danielle Citron, and the director of the ACLU's |
| 1:50.9 | Voting Rights Project, Dale Ho. Go to slate.com slash live for tickets. |
| 1:58.0 | So on this week's show, we are tackling a kind of slippery issue that is already woven itself through the first three episodes. |
| 2:08.3 | And that is how should we, how do we, what is the best way to talk about challenges to and problems with the integrity of U.S. elections. |
| 2:19.9 | You know, Dahlia, I think slippery is exactly the right word here because everything we've |
| 2:23.2 | talked about before in the earlier three episodes was pretty tangible. We talked about |
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