Welcome to another edition of the Conversations That Matter Podcast.

My name is John Harris.

This week is going to be just, we don't know what to expect.

It's going to be a crazy week and I've noticed that some out there who are on my side of the social justice debate,

especially when it comes to the church.

Some are, understand or think or suspect there's election fraud.

Others are skeptical of that claim.

And I want to break down some of,

ask some questions about this and hopefully break down and help people understand why there is kind of a divide, why some Americans, and I put myself in this category are very skeptical.

We think this is one of the most important moments

in the history of the United States, the Republic.

And here to help me do it is Matt Williams from How to Build A Tent.

Hey, I appreciate you joining me, Matt.

Thank you for coming on this Zoom session with me.

Thanks, John.

I appreciate you having me.

So Matt does kind of what I do in a way.

I mean, we all focus on sometimes a little bit different things,

but Matt, every time I have seen his material in my news feed,

it's at least in the last few weeks,

it's been focused on the election.

So I asked him, since he's so focused on this,

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