Welcome to 10 Blocks. I'm Jordan McGillis, economics editor of City Journal.

My guest today is Idris Kalloon, Washington Bureau Chief of the Economist, Idris I'm Jordan McGillis, economics editor of City Journal.

My guest today is Idris Kalloon, Washington Bureau Chief of The Economist.

Idris, thanks for coming on with me.

Thank you for inviting me. Glad to be on.

First, I just want to say Bureau Chief is a super cool title. Does that come with a badge?

You know, it's a very, very serious job. I get to decide the lunch that we get on Wednesdays, which is today. And I have some oversight over the desks in their arrangement as well. So really, really just a lot of power.

I imagine an old Catherine Graham Washington Post sort of set up, a lot of smoky rooms for you there at the Washington Bureau yeah yeah yeah we've we've left all that behind now it's just you know people in a

cubicle trying to figure out what the next big thing is going to be but if I understand correctly

you've been out on the road a lot this summer almost like a tornado chaser yeah well you know at the

start of maybe at the start of summer,

you know, I found myself just being bored with the election, not really finding anything much to do.

I remember I spent a good week or two reading about the Chevron decision because, you know,

that was really the most interesting thing that was going on. And then since then, we've had quite a lot happen. We have a new candidate at the top of the

Democratic ticket. And yeah, it's been, it's been exciting to go out and see, see them on the road,

you know, see the Democrats of the DNC, Republicans of the RNC. Very oddly, both conventions

filled with people who are just

totally enthusiastic and totally jubilant, which is not what you would have expected.

Definitely. We're recording this the final week of August, so just a week past the Democratic

Convention, about eight weeks from the fateful debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden,

and as you say, the changing of the

terrain in these past eight weeks, and especially since Kamala Harris emerged as the Democratic

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