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Oh God, What Now?

Election Bonus: The Shakespearean Tragedy of Rishi Sunak – with guest Steve Richards

Oh God, What Now?

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News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.62.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Politics podcast presenter Steve Richards talks to Jacob Jarvis about the Shakespearean downfall of Rishi Sunak, the gilded youth who finds he’s not up to this titanic task. Plus: Is appearing as brutal as the Conservatives the right strategy for Labour? The weakness of Starmer’s language. And the patronising futility of TV debates.  • “Sunak has tried on so many guises, he doesn’t know who he is now.”  • “In Grimsby Sunak just looked crushed… It must be tormenting him that he’s leading his party towards doom.”  • “When we see people as losers, everything we see of them reinforces that.” Support us on Patreon to get early access to all our live tickets plus mugs, t-shirts and more.  Presented by Jacob Jarvis. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Theme music by Cornershop. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Oh God What Now back with one of our increasingly frequent bonus

0:12.0

election episodes.

0:13.4

I'm Jacob Jarvis and joining me today is a man who needs little to know introduction,

0:17.6

but he'll get one.

0:18.6

What he doesn't know about British politics isn't worth knowing.

0:21.1

His analysis is always nuanced, incisive, and I would say pretty much

0:24.8

spot on most of the time too. Plus he's a fairly nice bloke as well which makes it a pleasure as always to be joined by

0:30.6

rock and roll politics host Steve Richards. Hi Steve

0:33.2

Hi Steve, thank you for having me. Steve you followed a lot of campaigns in your

0:38.3

time but this one particularly then how have you felt watching it and how did it

0:42.4

maybe feel different to ones of the past?

0:45.0

It's one of the oddest election campaigns I've covered.

0:48.6

I know a lot of people are saying it's a really dull campaign because the party leaders don't have great charisma.

0:56.0

We probably know the outcome, roughly.

0:59.6

The Oddity makes it actually darkly compelling. So there are so many sort of unexpected twists and turns.

1:06.8

Farage saying he wasn't going to stand. He then says he is going to stand. And you have this extraordinary situation of the

1:15.9

Conservative Party that has won elections with its eyes closed in Britain, you know,

1:22.2

from 1979 in power for 18 years and then from 2010,

1:28.0

14 years.

1:29.7

Now worried about whether it will even be the main opposition party. That's extraordinary.

1:35.3

And then you have the prospect if the polls are right and who knows of this massive

1:41.3

labor victory but imbued with quite a kind of cautious program.

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