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4.8 • 4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Here's a clip from last week's Gaslit Nation Salon, where I lay out what it will take for us to stop reactionary elections that punish whichever party is in power: the political pendulum swinging between Christian nationalists to establishment Democrats back to Christian nationalists. If we're serious about defeating fascism and overcoming the many crises we face, we need real political stability built from the ground up, not another cycle of rage-voting whiplash. Because if we don't confront these systemic issues, the voters will continue to punish whichever party is in power, and, as we saw in 2016 and 2024, this just makes everything worse, for everyone.

The clip also unpacks my conversation with the great E. Jean Carroll, an interview that sparked a lot of questions and debate among our listeners. You can listen to the full interview here on Patreon, here, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Last week's full salon discussion will be available on Monday morning for our Patreon members, along with a Zoom link for Monday's salon at 4pm ET. Come vent or tell us what's happening in your corner of the country.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Congressman, any reaction to Christy Nome removing the hate symbol designation from the swastika, the noose, and the Confederate flag from Coast Guard?
0:09.0	Well, I mean, I'm being informed about this right now from you, but, you know, once I look into it, I mean, that's shocking.
0:20.0	This is... I mean, that's shocking.
0:24.6	This is... I mean, a swastika is one of the most clear, definitional, and most violent symbols of hatred in all of humanity, let alone in the United States.
0:41.9	And so to remove that from designation, I heard these reports that you're informing me of
0:47.6	is quite shocking. And it indicates a possible collaboration with those very elements, which is, I think, genuinely
0:55.6	frightening to any American. Our opening clip was New York Congresswoman, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
1:02.5	pointing out that if the U.S. Coast Guard says Nazi symbols, we're not going to ban them.
1:08.5	That is obviously a big red flag. And thank you for all the
1:13.4	public outcry that forced them to reverse that decision. Even making that decision the first
1:19.8	place confirms yet again, the MAGA gang are actual Nazis. We are fighting World War III. Only this
1:26.2	time it's on U.S. soil and the Russian fascists
1:29.3	poured gasoline on our homegrown fascists to create this national fire. In this recording,
1:37.1	I wanted to share my overall feelings on where we go from here, because I have the absolute
1:43.0	faith in the people of America, many whose
1:46.3	families defeated the Nazis in World War II, who defeated the traitors of the Confederacy,
1:52.0	and to those Americans who only recently joined the American family as citizens, or simply live
1:58.4	here, or you're from somewhere else, somewhere abroad, or you're watching
2:01.7	from abroad and desperately want to see the American people succeed in liberating ourselves
2:07.7	from this terror, not only for ourselves, of course, but the world. I want to just reassure you
2:14.0	all, I have faith in the people. Absolute faith. We are in the fight of our lives
2:19.5	and more and more are waking up to that fact, getting involved. I've studied resistance movements.
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