Well, I don't think faith is faith, Adele, it's all you have to hang on to.

And we were both in our different kinds of illnesses.

We were both driven to the point where it was life and death.

And so faith was the only thing we had to hold on to. Not just your faith, but the faith of your

children, your husband, your friends, everybody can join in their faith. And everybody gets to have these miraculous things.

They have the privilege of seeing them and they have the grand intuition to add to that in every way.

I felt like everything I've done that's been a challenge,

has driven me closer and closer to the Lord. Everything.

I'm Sarah Jane Weaver, editor of the church news. Welcome to the church news podcast. We are taking

you on a journey of connection as we discuss news and events of the Church of Jesus

Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland and his wife's sister Patricia Terry Holland have dedicated their

lives to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This special episode of the Church

News podcast is the first in a two-part

series, featuring the Holland sharing the lessons they have learned through the course of their

lives. Elder Holland of the Corm of the Twelve Apostles has served as a general authority since

April 1989 and is the former president of BYU. Sister Holland served as a counselor in the Young Women General Presidency during the organization's formative years when the young woman theme and values were created.

The Hollins are joined today by guest host Sister Sherry Dew, a former member of the Relief Society General Presidency and the Executive Vice President

of Desert Management Corporation. The three talk about their lives, leadership, service,

and testimonies and how in so many nations across the globe they have stood as living witnesses

of the Savior Jesus Christ.

We're thrilled to get a chance to talk to you too. Thank you. We love you. We love you.

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