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El Niño is nigh, but so what?

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4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

With 2023’s El Niño – a recurring pattern of extreme weather across the pacific basin - still leaving a bad taste in people's mouth, 2026 sees an El Niño stirring in the Pacific Ocean and there are warnings that this will be one of the strongest yet.

Roland Pease speaks with Amanda Maycock, a climatologist from Leeds University, to discuss what this climate phenomenon is and how it will impact the world from October to early next year.

He also hears from Scott Evans from the American Museum of Natural History, who has been exploring the Mackenzie mountains of Canada’s Northwest Territory to better understand the biology and ecology of life on earth before anything we might recognize - from the Ediacara era. This was before the explosion of different animal types with hard shells and bones in the later, Cambrian, time. In certain places around the world, much older rocks from the ancient ocean floor reveal an ecosystem abounding with soft, squidgy animal wierdness.

In Canada Scott has found a new trove of these fossils, but from far deeper below the surface of those ancient seas. Did animal life begin deep in the darkest depths rather than paddling in pools nearer the land?

Today, over half a billion years later, bottom trawling, a common fishing method involving dragging heavy nets across the bottom of the seafloor, is an environmentally destructive process that rips up everything in its path to maximise catch. We talked to Amanda Vincent, a professor at the Institute for the Oceans and fisheries of the British Columbia university and founder of the international Project Seahorse conservation group, about what bottom-trawl bans can achieve, in the light of results published about a renaissance of biodiversity off the coast of Scotland in an area where trawling has been banned for several years.

Plus, we talk to science journalist Gareth Mitchell, who explains how bottom trawling can also have negative consequences on technology, as well as other science news you may have missed, including updates on solar storms and robotic wolf shortages in Japan.

Presenter: Roland Pease Producers: Alex Mansfield and Dan Welsh Editor: Martin Smith Production Co-ordinator: Jana Bennett-Holesworth

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0:35.0

Whipple has temporarily vacated the bridge and left me

0:38.1

Roland Peace at the helm, but also because we've ended up with a bit of a maritime theme,

0:44.5

ranging from the origins of animal life in the ocean depths 600 million or so years ago.

0:50.6

When we look back in the history of Earth, the Ediacaran, this period of time and these fossils that I study are the first evidence for the emergence of animals.

0:59.8

To a call for a ban on bottom trawling fisheries to preserve the critters that inhabit the seabeds today.

1:06.7

Bottom trawling is this crazy form of fishing where you drop heavily weighted nets.

1:16.1

You drag them through the ocean floor, picking up pretty much everything in your path and honestly laying waste to the habitats behind.

1:19.4

And to start with the stirrings in the surface of the Central and Eastern Pacific

1:24.4

towards the equatorial coast of South America, that heralds, according to

1:28.9

all forecasts now, are strong, if not extreme, El Nino later this year, stirring memories of global

1:35.7

weather impacts from previous El Nino's in 2023 and a really strong one in 2016. This one might be

1:42.5

stronger still. Some headlines are turning to the adjective super,

1:46.4

but it's not in the technical lexicon, adds nothing to discussion, and I'm putting it to one side.

1:52.3

Science journalist Gareth Mitchell will be explaining shortly some of the technologies to detect

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