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Hello, I'm Katie Piper, and welcome to my podcast, Katie Piper's Extraordinary People.

Each episode I'll meet an amazing person with an incredible story who faced adversity and came through the other side to inspire others.

Today I'm talking to E.J. Osbourne, a super extraordinary person.

He's a talented woodworker and a BBC TV presenter on the show Money for Nothing.

After being born in the wrong body, he came out as trans four years ago,

and he talks with amazing humour and honesty about his incredible life story.

So first of all, welcome to my humble studio. We have never met before. We haven't. But I suppose,

as with all kind of social media platforms, I feel like I know a small bit about you from what you post on Instagram.

And what becomes apparent from your account straight away

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