Hello, everybody and welcome to Just the Zip. Today we have an OD, but one of my favorite podcast to date.

This episode was actually recorded last year, but I wanted to share it with you guys again because I feel like it's such an important conversation to have right now because of what's going on in the Wade family with their daughter, Zaya.

What happened on the Wendy Williams show the other day with her comments about men wearing skirts and heels.

And for the longest time, I had to educate myself even being part of the letter people.

You know, I'm a gay. I'm part of the G's and the G's.

And one of my best friends is also gay, but he's gender non-conforming.

And he doesn't give a fuck about what people say about him.

And this conversation today is about how that person overcame a lot and how he became himself

and how he changed

the whole generation

in the wake

of his strut

and please welcome

one of my closest

friends

and in my mind

the person

who changed the world

four years ago

E.J. Johnson.

If you can't handle what's about to go down, please change the channel. Please. Because we

actually Kiki like this all the time. All the time. There's always a rosé. There's always a

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