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"Either of Us": The Kouri Richins Text That Changes Everything

True Crime Today | Daily True Crime News & Interviews

Tony Brueski

News Commentary, True Crime, News

4.2 β€’ 612 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 6 March 2026

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Most defendants are brought down by what prosecutors find. Kouri Richins may be brought down by what she wrote. Day 9 of the Utah murder trial shifted squarely onto the text messages and recorded calls Kouri sent to her closest friends in the weeks and months following her husband Eric's death β€” and what emerged was a pattern that the defense has yet to find an answer for.

The phrase that stands out above all others came in a May 2022 text to her best friend Chelsea Barney. Kouri wrote that investigators had found nothing on either of them. Not her. Either of them. In a single phrase, she appears to have placed her best friend inside the situation alongside her β€” a woman who had handed over her life savings and was paying Kouri's mortgage every month, all while the deed to her home was never properly recorded and an unauthorized loan had already been taken out against it.

That same friend asked Kouri in a later text what she would have put in a sandwich to make Eric sick. Kouri's response wasn't outrage. It was a deflection. She didn't make the sandwiches. That was it.

Then came the moment prosecutors had been building toward for nine days. Kouri texting Chelsea a photo of the death certificate β€” fentanyl confirmed β€” saying it was finally over and that she was relieved.

Testimony also covered a Valentine's Day breakfast receipt from a local diner, a somber call Eric made to a close friend that same morning, a divorce attorney's quiet confirmation that Kouri was exploring her options months before Eric died, and recorded calls to Eric's best friend where Kouri insisted she didn't care about money β€” right before listing twelve properties and the $250,000 loan she took without Eric's knowledge.

The prosecution is nearly done. The jury is watching.

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1:00.8

This is Hidden Killers with Tony Bruske. Here now, Tony Bruske.

1:07.5

Eric Richens called his friend Joshua Kay's on Valentine's Day 2022.

1:14.6

That detail alone should stop you. Why?

1:18.7

And because Valentine's Day calls are unusual.

1:21.4

Because of what kind of call this one was.

1:25.4

Kay's had known to Eric for years.

1:26.9

They hunted together.

1:28.8

They hiked, demanding trails together, talked at least every other week.

1:34.7

He described Eric to the jury as outgoing, magnetic, dependable to his core.

1:41.1

If he said he'd be somewhere, he was there.

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