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This is Design Matters with

This is Design Matters with Debbie Millman

from Design Observer.com.

For 11 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative types

about what they do, how they got to be who they are and

what they're thinking about. On this podcast it'd be moving talks with Eileen

Miles about poetry, fame, and politics. We're gonna find out what resistance

means now.

Never in my adult life have I had this kind of challenge.

Here's Debbie Milman.

I am always hungry and wanting to have sex.

This is a fact.

That's the opening of Eileen Miles' poem, peanut butter.

If you haven't read Eileen Miles's writing, please start. It's blunt, it's

open, it's funny, it's moving, and there's a lot of it. More than 20 books of it in fact.

She started off in the East Village poetry scene in the 1970s, and for decades she's been famous

in the poetry world.

Very recently, she vaulted to a new level of renown when the Amazon

show transparent modeled a character on her who read her poems. It's a rare and wonderful thing when a poet makes waves in popular culture and Eileen Miles has done just that.

She's here to talk about her life as a poet, her role as a highly outspoken feminist, and yes, about the election.

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