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You are a human animal.

You are a very special breed,

or you are the only animal,

who can think, who can reason, who can read.

From KCRW, Santa Monica, I'm Michael Silverblatt, and this is Bookworm.

I'm very excited about the show today because, you know, there are certain things that you

read that you've gotten used to reading and you read in a certain way.

Many guests on my show have included members of the New York School.

You've heard Ron Padgett, Eileen Miles, Kenward Elmsley, John Ashbery, John Yao.

And a new book has come out called Women, the New York School, and other true abstractions.

It's by Maggie Nelson, who's one of my guests. She is also a poet whose most recent book

is something bright than holes, which is published by Soft Skull Press.

The book, Women, the New York School, and other abstractions is published by the University

of Iowa.

My second guest is Eileen Miles, who was called by Ted Berrigan, the last member of the

New York School, who has a new book, Sorry Tree,

published by Wave Books.

Now, when I started reading Maggie's book, it hadn't occurred to me that after the first generation of the New York

School, which had included John Ashbury, Kenneth Koch, James Schuyler, Frank O'Hara,

and Barbara Guest, that as this got named as a school of poetry, something really

that began to happen when a gallery owner, thinking of the New York School of Painters,

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