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Foreign Policy Live

Ehud Barak on What Happens Next

Foreign Policy Live

Foreign Policy

Politics, News Commentary, News

4601 Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Over the weekend, Israel began its ground invasion of Gaza, compounding the humanitarian crisis there and causing record civilian losses. This comes amid growing concerns from experts of a larger regional conflict. How should the United States and the global community respond to prevent further escalation in the region and minimize harm to the Israeli hostages and Palestinian civilians? Former Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister Ehud Barak joins host Ravi Agrawal on this week’s episode of Foreign Policy Live. Suggested reading: Daniel Byman: The Israel-Hamas War Has Entered a ‘New Phase.’ Here’s What to Expect. Tal Alroy: ‘We Will Never Forgive Netanyahu for What He Did to Us’ Stephen M. Walt: Universities Shouldn’t Ever Take Sides in a War Franz-Stefan Gady: Israel’s Military Tech Fetish Is a Failed Strategy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, foreign policies editor-in-chief. This is FP Live.

0:40.2

Welcome to the show. October 7 is a day Israelis will never forget. Hamas, a group most

0:47.7

Western governments define as a terrorist group, invaded Israel from Gaza and committed a spate

0:53.2

of horrific acts. They slaughtered more than

0:55.9

1,400 people. They kidnapped more than 200 others, including women, children, and the elderly.

1:03.4

Since then, Israel has retaliated. It's bombarded Gaza, and on Saturday it began what its military

1:09.9

called a second phase, sending in ground

1:13.2

troops and tanks into the densely populated strip. Gaza's health ministry, which is run by Hamas,

1:19.8

says 8,000 Palestinians have been killed so far, most of them women and children. Israel says

1:26.3

Hamas fighters purposely hide among civilians,

1:29.5

but regardless, the human suffering there is real. This is a full-blown humanitarian crisis.

1:36.8

All of this sounds horrible, and it is. But unprecedented as the last 24 days of been,

1:43.1

this is part of a conflict that is decades old.

1:46.3

It is wrought with years of personal trauma, frustration, and failed leadership on both sides.

1:53.4

I'm taping this on October 31st.

1:55.8

As you know, we usually drop episodes on Fridays, but these are crazy times, and our tapings get dated almost instantly.

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