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Amanpour

Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty

Amanpour

CNN

News

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump declared that "phase two" of the Gaza ceasefire has begun, which calls for the establishment of an interim government in Gaza and the formation of a multinational security force. But Trump acknowledges that "the job is not done" on phase one, after Hamas missed the 72-hour window for handing over the bodies of all remaining hostages. Egypt is playing a major role in helping to secure and stabilize Gaza. Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty joins the show to discuss.  Also on today's show: Nobel Peace Prize winner Maria Corina Machado; Atlantic Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amunpur. Here's what's coming up.

0:08.0

If they don't disarm, we will disarm them and it will happen quickly and perhaps violently.

0:14.0

As the Gaza ceasefire agreement moves to phase two, there's already a hold up on phase one.

0:20.0

Israel slows aid deliveries after

0:22.3

Hamas fails to release the bodies of all deceased hostages. So what happens next? I asked

0:28.3

the Egyptian Foreign Minister Bada Abdelati, a central player in the negotiations.

0:33.9

Then, we hear directly from Maria Karina Machado, the Venezuelan opposition leader who won the Nobel Peace Prize,

0:40.3

about bringing democracy as American forces gather against her country, and...

0:46.3

America is a wonderful country, a wonderful experiment, that sometimes it's made bad mistakes.

0:56.0

Walter Isaacson speaks with the editor of the Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg'm Christiana Manpur in London.

1:31.3

Donald Trump declared that phase two of the Gaza ceasefire has begun, which calls for the establishment of an interim government in Gaza

1:35.3

and for the formation of a multinational security force.

1:38.3

But Trump acknowledges that, quote, the job is not done on phase one.

1:42.3

After Hamas missed the 72-hour deadline for handing

1:46.4

over the bodies of all remaining hostages, Israel responded by reducing the humanitarian aid

1:52.0

allowed into Gaza. For now, the ceasefire is holding, but the UN reports that the Israeli military

1:58.0

quotes continues to kill civilians around the areas to which it has

2:01.6

redeployed in Gaza. And Hamas is reasserting its control in areas where Israel has pulled back.

2:07.6

As negotiations continue in Egypt, key questions are still unanswered.

2:12.6

Will Hamas disarm? Will this deal lead to a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians?

2:19.3

Egypt is playing a major role in helping to secure and stabilize Gaza, and I spoke about all of this with the foreign minister Bada Abdelati.

2:28.3

Foreign Minister Abdalati, welcome to our program.

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